Meeting documents

Venue: The Olympic Room, Aylesbury Vale District Council, The Gateway, Gatehouse Road, Aylesbury, HP19 8FF

Contact: Alice Fisher; Email: afisher@aylesburyvaledc.gov.uk; 

Items
No. Item

1.

Temporary Changes to Membership

Any changes will be reported at the meeting.

 

Minutes:

Cllr J Blake substituted for Cllr M Hawkins

2.

Minutes pdf icon PDF 57 KB

To approve as a correct record the Minutes of the meeting held on 7 November 2016 attached as an Appendix.

Minutes:

RESOLVED –

 

That the minutes of the meeting held on 7 November 2016 be approved as a correct record.

3.

Review of Taxi and Private Hire Licensing Policy pdf icon PDF 758 KB

To consider the report attached.

Minutes:

In July 2016 the Licensing Committee agreed a number of changes that they wished to be included in a future Taxi and Private Hire Licensing Policy for Aylesbury Vale. Subsequent to this a letter (attached as an appendix to the report) had been sent to all operators summarising the views of the committee.

 

The major area of concern for Members was the improvement of the licensed fleet and the age of the vehicles. Currently age limits had beenset at 6 years for new vehicles with an upper age limit of 10 years, subject to some exemptions. A proposal of a single age limit of 7 years had been presented to the trade.

 

The response to the letter had been generally negative, with the majority either asking for existing age limits to continue or to increase them. Hackney carriage drivers had also responded, but it had always been envisaged that purpose built hackney carriages would be subject to an exemption.

 

At the same time that the consultation was taking place, Bucks County Council had introduced parking meters in Aylesbury Town Centre which had also caused disquiet amongst the hackney carriage trade. Some of the drivers had subsequently joined the GMB Union who made a representation in respect of the proposed age limits. The National Private Hire Association (NPHA) had also made a representation and copies of both were attached to the report as an appendix. However, with the exception of the response from the NPHA, none of the other responses offered any positive or credible alternative suggestions to improve the quality of the licensed fleet. Therefore a further letter was sent to all operators summarising the views of the NPHA and suggesting either a single lower age limit or a single upper age limit. The letter was also attached as an appendix to the report.

 

A meeting with the trade was held in December 2016. The consensus of opinion arising from that meeting was that AVDC implement a strictly applied upper age limit of 10 years subject to some exceptions. The exceptions being:-

 

·         Purpose built Hackney Carriages

·         Specialist vehicles designed for wheelchair access; and

·         Executive vehicles.

 

It had been proposed that the above vehicles be subject to an upper age limit of 15 years. The Hackney Carriage Association had also requested that AVDC reconsider the hackney carriage specification as there was now a broader range of vehicles that met the accessibility criteria but were not European Whole Type Approved.

 

However, following discussions with the Chairman of the Licensing Committee, it had been felt that a compromise had not been reached and it would be likely to be unacceptable to the Members of the Licensing Committee. A further proposal had been made to the trade, endorsing the principle of an upper age limit but reducing it to a maximum of 8 years. Further representations from the Aylesbury Private Hire Association, the Aylesbury Hackney Carriage Association and the GMB Union were attached as appendices to the report.

 

It was acknowledged that the age  ...  view the full minutes text for item 3.

4.

Report on the Impact of the De-regulation Act on AVDC pdf icon PDF 130 KB

To consider the report attached.

Minutes:

The Deregulation Act 2015 had introduced an amendment to the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976 which effectively changed the rules in relation to sub-contracting work outside of the controlled district, for example AVDC. Previously operators could only sub-contract bookings within the controlled district. The Deregulation Act now allowed operators to sub-contract bookings to licensed operators outside of the controlled district. The change in legislation was designed to permit operators to grow beyond the boundaries of their respective licensing authority.

 

The change in the law had had significant impact on the licensing services at AVDC and had resulted in a large increase in driver applications from people who did not reside in the Vale. It appeared that some operators were taking advantage of the change to legislation to circumnavigate obtaining licences in neighbouring authorities. Some had been refused a licence in their ‘home authority’ on the basis of failing a local knowledge or English language test. As AVDC did not at present have these pre-requisites for a licence, some individual applicants had obtained a licence from AVDC and were allegedly now working in their home authority.

 

The Law required the sub-contracted booking to be accepted in the area that the sub-contractor was licensed within. With the use of smart phones, Apps and virtual offices, this was not always easily verifiable. The fastest growing private hire provider in the UK, Uber was given as an example where customers used an App to hire a vehicle. Further details on how Uber worked had been given in the report and reported at the meeting.

 

With the ongoing use of new technology, the strict legal position had become ambiguous and would be subject to various interpretations until such time as the Courts decide. In the meantime some other operators were making use of the technology to take bookings and payments. This could help to provide better records for licensing authorities and operators to better manage their drivers.

 

However, at the moment this was proving problematical for AVDC and the neighbouring authorities. AVDC’s main concern was whether a driver was a fit and proper person to hold a licence. All applicants had to follow the same process regardless of where they lived and assessed in accordance with AVDC’s policy on criminal conduct and unacceptable behaviour. Additionally any applicant living outside the Vale was subject to a further check with their home authority to determine whether they have held a licence or been subject to any regulatory sanction. As a consequence applications from potential drivers from outside the Vale were taking a considerable time to process as neighbouring authorities were not always able to respond speedily with the information required.

 

The abundance of applications from outside the Vale had highlighted the need for a National database. There had been discussions with neighbouring authorities on setting up a regional database, and Members would be kept informed.

 

It was also suggested that Members introduce an English Language test. An example was attached as an appendix to the report.  ...  view the full minutes text for item 4.

5.

Report on Creating a Rural Hackney Carriage Tariff pdf icon PDF 85 KB

To consider the report attached.

Minutes:

Members were reminded that the Rural Hackney Carriage Association had requested a change to the current tariff and the introduction of a new rural tariff, which had been discussed by the Licensing Committee at it’s meeting in November 2016.

 

However, following discussions with the rural trade, it appeared that an error had been made in the initial report which had stated that the start time for tariff 2 would commence at 11 pm. The Trade had requested that the start time be 10 pm. This start time would provide the rural trade with a longer window with which to earn during unsociable hours.

 

It was not considered that the start time of 10 pm was unreasonable as a number of other authorities commenced a later tariff from 8 pm.

 

The tariffs would be calibrated on to the taxi meter, which would automatically calculate the fare. The Rural Hackney Association had requested that this be changed to a non-calendar controlled meter, so that the driver could make the changes from GMT to BST, and vice-versa, and because of the difficulty in obtaining a company that could amend the times accordingly. However, following further discussions, it appeared that a 6 monthly change was not necessary and a local company had been found who could provide all meter calibration services.

 

It was confirmed that because of the error, the fares for Hackney Carriages would need to be re-advertised.

 

RESOLVED –

 

1.    The Licensing Committee re-considered the proposed changes to the tariffs for Hackney Carriages in accordance with Section 65 of the Local Government Act (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act, 1976.

 

2.    The Licensing Committee authorised the Licensing Manager to advertise the revised tariff in a local newspaper, and if no objections were received, that the Licensing Manager be authorised to adopt the new tariff for the rural zone, and for the meters to be ‘calendar controlled’.

 

3.    If any objections were received and not withdrawn, they be reported to the Licensing Committee for further consideration.