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Apologies for absence Additional documents: Minutes: Apologies had been received from:
Substitutes present were:
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Declarations of Interest To declare any Personal or Disclosable Pecuniary Interests. Additional documents: Minutes: Ms A Wight declared to the Committee that she was a Member of the Corporate Parenting Panel.
Mr G Williams declared to the Committee that he was also a Member of the Corporate Parenting Panel and was present during the Cabinet meeting on 8 January 2018 as a deputy.
Ms J Ward informed the Committee that she was a Member of the Aylesbury Vale District Council.
Mr Irwin declared his work with the Waddesdon Children Centre with a devolved service.
Mr S Lambert declared that he was a former board member with the Quarrendon and Bearbrook Children’s Centres and his role as District Councillor for Aylesbury Vale.
Mr D Dhillon declared his former position on the advisory board of the Farnham Common Children’s Centre.
Mr R Reed declared that he was the former Chairman of the board for Denham Children’s Centre.
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Chairman's Introduction The Chairman will explain how this special meeting will be conducted. Additional documents: Minutes: The Chairman welcomed the public attending the meeting and those following the webcast.
The Chairman noted that, although the meeting would be held in public, it was not a public meeting and therefore there would be no questions from the public. He then went on to provide an explanation of how the committee meeting would be conducted. |
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Validity of the Call-in PDF 899 KB The Committee will take advice as to whether the request to Call-In Cabinet decision Early Help Review, Cabinet Item 10, 8 January 2018 is valid.
Contributors: Ms S Turnbull, Head of Democratic Services and Deputy Monitoring Officer
Supporting Papers: · Cabinet Decision report & appendices item 10, 8 Jan 2018 · Call In request from Julia Wassell supported by Mr N Hussain, Mr C Ditta, Mr M Farrow · Extract of Buckinghamshire County Council Constitution – Call in
Background Paper:
· Children’s Social Care & Learning Select Committee considered the topic of Early Help at its meeting on 17 October 2018. The papers, minutes and webcast of this meeting can be viewed here: https://democracy.buckscc.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=788&MId=9303&Ver=4 Additional documents:
Minutes: The Chairman welcomed Ms S Turnbull, Head of Democratic Services and Deputy Monitoring Officer to the meeting.
Ms Turnbull confirmed her advice that the call-in was valid and that Members should hear evidence from both parties. |
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Call-in Request Submission PDF 109 KB The Committee will consider the submission from the County Councillors who called in the decision and witnesses they have invited to attend the meeting.
There will be 20 minutes to present the case, followed by an opportunity for the Committee to ask any questions.
Contributors: Julia Wassell, County Councillor (lead member submitting call-in request)
Witnesses: Mrs A Dass, Member of the Public Mr M Knight, District Councillor Mr M Farrow, County Councillor
Supporting Papers: · Supporting Paper and Appendices from Julia Wassell · Representations received in response to the Cabinet Member Decision · Early Help Consultation ‘You Tell Us’ July 2017 · Additional Consultation Information September 2017 Additional documents:
Minutes: The Chairman welcomed Julia Wassell (County Councillor) who introduced her supporters and witnesses: Mr M Farrow (County Councillor), Mr M Knight (District Councillor) and Mrs A Dass (Member of the Public). The group were advised that they would have 20 minutes in which to present their case followed by questions from the Committee.
Julia Wassell opened with a presentation and made the following key points:
Julia Wassell then handed over to her witness Ms A Dass to present her case to the Committee, the following points were made:
Julia Wassell then went on to outline the next point of her case which was the failure to ... view the full minutes text for item 5. |
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Response to the Call-in PDF 560 KB The Cabinet Member for Children’s Services will attend the meeting to explain the reasons behind Cabinet’s proposal to create a new Early Help service, as set out at the Cabinet meeting on 8 January 2017.
There will be 20 minutes to present the case, followed by an opportunity for the Committee to ask any questions.
Contributors: Mr W Whyte, Cabinet Member for Children’s Services
Supporting Officers: Mr T Vouyioukas, Executive Director, Children’s Services Mr P Dart, Programme Director, Change for Children, Children’s Services Ms J Tisbury, Project Manager, Early Help, Children’s Services
Supporting Papers: · Response to the call-in request from Mr W Whyte, Cabinet Member for Children’s Services · Response to the Supporting Paper from Julia Wassell - paper to follow
Additional documents: Minutes: The Chairman welcomed Mr W Whyte (County Councillor) who introduced his supporting officers: Mr T Vouyioukas (Executive Director, Children’s Services), Mr P Dart (Programme Director – Change for Children) and Ms J Tisbury (Project Manager – Early Help). The group were advised that they would have 20 minutes in which to present their case followed by questions from the Committee.
Mr Whyte made the following key points in his presentation, in response to the written call-in request made by Julia Wassell:
Research had identified the key issues that were driving demand for children's services. Using advice and guidance, such as the Early Intervention Foundation, the view that the Troubled Family Outcome Measures were appropriate had been confirmed and these measures would be an appropriate delivery method. The Early Help Strategy contained other existing measures.
The Equality Impact Assessment (EIA) was detailed and clear that the new service would provide enhanced outreach to families finding themselves in difficult situations.
As a corporate parent the County Council had a duty to make sure that Children’s Services were as effective as possible with the resources available. When the consultation started, Mr Whyte e-mailed all Members with details of the consultation and invited them to submit any questions. All Member briefings were unfortunately poorly attended. Members had the opportunity to present information on the Early Help Review at Local Area Forums.
Mr Whyte reiterated that workers had the discretion to meet in a place that would be agreed by the families.
Under the new model, families would engage with one professional rather than speaking to a number of staff at different agencies to receive support.
From mid-October Mr Whyte authorised formal fact-finding discussions with a number of sites, including schools, to consider how the Local Authority might make better use of the Children’s Centre sites and service provided. Cabinet report recommendation 2 was a direct result of the consultation process.
It was acknowledged that the initial consultation document was too high-level about the proposed outcomes and this was clarified later in the second stage. The design of the new Early Help model would make it easier for workers to engage with families in areas of deprivation.
The consultation responses showed the importance people place on buildings as focal points for communities. The Early Help model was not a building specific service and would make use of community facilities. The Cabinet decision authorised discussions over the next 6 months to explore how buildings could be re-purposed.
Mr Whyte confirmed that he was confident that the consultation process was robust and representative of the public’s ... view the full minutes text for item 6. |
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Committee Deliberation The Committee will consider the written submissions and verbal evidence they have heard during the meeting and will decide to uphold or reject the call-in request. Additional documents: Minutes:
The Chairman invited Members of the Committee to share their views on the evidence which they had heard, with a view to deciding whether to reject the Call-in request or to refer the decision back to Cabinet for reconsideration.
RESOLUTION The Committee voted on whether to accept the call-in request and refer the decision back to Cabinet. The Committee by majority voted against this resolution and therefore rejected the call-in request. |
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Date of Next Meeting To note the next meeting of the Children’s Social Care and Learning Select Committee on 6 February 2018, 10.30 am, Mezzanine Room 1, County Hall, Aylesbury Additional documents: Minutes: 6 February 2018, 10.30am, Mezzanine Room 1, County Hall |