Meeting documents

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Items
No. Item

1.

Apologies for Absence

Minutes:

Apologies of absence were received from Neil Harris, Peter Challis, Chris Hurworth, Viv Lynch, Richard Pushman and Lesley Clarke OBE.

2.

Declarations of Interest

Minutes:

There were no declarations of interest.

3.

Minutes of the Meeting held on 27 March 2013, to be confirmed pdf icon PDF 53 KB

Minutes:

The minutes of the meeting held on 27 March 2013 were confirmed.

4.

Matters Arising

Minutes:

There were no matters arising.

5.

Rights of way group report pdf icon PDF 75 KB

Mike Walker, Definitive Map Team; Jonathan Clark, Strategic Access Advisor; and Joanne Taylor, Operations Team Leader

 

Additional documents:

Minutes:

Members had received the Rights of Way Group Report.

 

Claire Hudson took Members through the Definitive Map Update.

 

The following updates were provided:

·         The Order made on 18 June 2013 regarding the application in Taplow to record the route from River Road to Amerden Lane as Public Bridleway was referred to the Secretary of State for determination. However it has been returned stating that there was a flaw in the plan submitted. The application will now need to be re-advertised. All Parish Councils involved have been written to advising them of the situation. The old objections are not valid and objections will need to be made again.

·         The Lower Winchendon application which was accepted by the Rights of Way Committee at its January meeting is at risk of challenge by the landowner. The issue will be presented to the Committee again in due course and the Committee will be asked to consider a rescindment under a point of law.

·         An Order regarding Lane End was made. It will need to be referred to the Secretary of State as an objection was received.

·         The application to divert Footpath No 7 was made by network rail.

·         52 objections were received in relation to an application to extinguish Footpath No 14. The recommendation to the Committee will be for the Order to be abandoned.

·         Point 45 on the report should read Hughenden not Great Missenden

·         The applicants of the land at Coppice Farm Road, Tylers Green, Penn now own the land

 

The Chairman commented that the law regarding Village Green applications was in the process of being changed. Clare Hudson advised that it would mean that a Village Green application could not be applied for if a planning application had been applied for.

 

The Chairman asked if the Forum could know the reasons why the applications under points 14 and 16 were rejected by the Committee. Clare advised that this was an Officer Recommendation. Members were informed that the Rights of Way papers were publicly available to view on the BCC website should Members wish to see the detailed information

 

Jon Clark then took Members through the Strategic Access Update.

 

A Member enquired if all the path diversions, extinguishments, etc., for HS2 would have to go through the same process as presently. Jon Clark advised that they would not as there would be provisions within the Hybrid Bill.

 

Jon Clark updated members on HS2. He said he was looking at longer diversions, further away from the line and that this work was progressing. Jon asked if all Members of the Forum wished to be consulted or just the HS2 working group on these proposed changes. The Chairman asked that all Members be consulted. Jon said that he would make up some draft maps and send them to Members.

 

Glyn Thomas advised that an application had been submitted to fund a new bridge and public access on land owned by Watermead Parish Council and that it was with Natural England to adjudicate. It  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5.

6.

LAF Members Report pdf icon PDF 56 KB

Additional documents:

Minutes:

Members had received the LAF Members’ report.

 

The Chairman advised that he had submitted a response to the Draft Environmental Statement on behalf of the LAF and that this would be circulated to Members (attached to minutes).

 

Alan Lambourne confirmed he attended the Waddesdon HS2 Community Forum meeting on 31 May 2013.

 

David Briggs, Glyn Thomas and Viv Lynch all attended the South East LAF Conference. David advised that a key theme of the conference was that it is sometimes difficult to maintain and manage open access if the landowner is doing something else on the land and that it is sometimes difficult for landowners to do the right thing. Glyn commented that it was highlighted at the Conference that the MOD did not insure land and that this is one of the reasons access to the land is restricted. Both David and Glyn commented that they felt the Conference was well organised and interesting.

 

Gavin Caspersz advised that he is now a Regional Representative for the National Disabled Ramblers, with a role to promote the Chilterns. Gavin provided the following update:

·         The Disabled Ramblers is a national organisation

·         It is open to the public to participate

·         There are 52 visits a year held

·         Gavin is trying to get the organisation de-centralised so that there can be localised groups and that this idea has been accepted

·         De-centralisation has started

·         Gavin is a volunteer for Bucks and The Chilterns

·         Bucks has got Stoke Mandeville Hospital and hosted the Paralympic Games

·         He would like disabled rambling in the Chilterns to be promoted for tourism

·         It may help to promote and publicise how well Bucks is doing in this area

·         Gavin has been working with Jon Clark to create a list of routes, with the aim to publicise them on the website.

·         The scheme improves upon the Simply Walk and ‘Miles without Stiles’ schemes where local people can get involved and just turn up without prior booking

·         Some routes have been finalised and the focus is now on advertising them. This could also help to promote the LAF

·         Gavin has identified, tested and graded 10 routes

·         50% are nearly ready to be classified as accessible routes

 

Members noted the Natural England correspondence and Glyn Thomas commented that Kevin Haugh had been very helpful with the application he had made for Watermead.

 

Jon Clark advised the LAF was a statutory consultee for Dog Control Orders. He said that Burnham Beeches were considering making an order and asked if Members would like them to attend a LAF meeting to discuss the issues. Members agreed that he should be invited to the November 2013 meeting of the Forum.

 

Action: Jon Clark

 

Jon advised that there had been some changes in staff and that he would circulate the Area Team Map to Members.

 

Action: Jon Clark

7.

Any Other Business

Minutes:

There was no AOB

8.

Date of Next and Future Meetings

Wednesday 20th November 2013, 10am, Mezzanine Room 1, County Hall, Aylesbury

 

 

Minutes:

Members noted the next meeting date as Wednesday 20th November 2013, 10am, Mezzanine Room 1, County Hall, Aylesbury